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自由單車網絡 TM 由全球5,326個群組組成,有8,902,605個會員,而你就喺隔離。呢個係一個基層同完全非牟利嘅運動,由啲人喺自己嘅城鎮同社區免費畀(同攞)嘢。呢個全部都係關於重用同埋將好嘢避開堆填區。每個本地團體都由本地義工(佢哋嘅好人)主持。會員係免費嘅,但係我哋會要求同接受捐款,嚟幫助保持網站運作。

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02020年8月6日

據我所知, Freecycle 畀人做多啲冇貿易嘅嘢,所以你可能會認為佢應該加入目錄 - 佢促進好嘅、冇貿易嘅行為。佢令人可以分享同重用嘢,而呢種人與人之間嘅分享同重用係冇貿易嘅。但係呢種令我諗起 Couchsurfing.com- Couchsurfing 亦都令到一件好嘅免貿易嘅事成為可能:人哋可以同其他人免貿易噉分享佢哋嘅空間(沙發、備用睡房,無論點。),噉樣其他人就有一個自由嘅地方瞓覺。佢推廣咗一個好正嘅人與人之間嘅免貿易服務,所以我可以明白點解有人可能想將 Couchsurfing 加入目錄。不過 , Couchsurfing 提供嘅服務唔係人哋嘅免貿易住宿,佢提供嘅服務係一個人哋可以互相聯繫嘅網站。而可惜嘅係,嗰個網站唔係冇貿易嘅。一開始,佢哋喺佢哋嘅網站上面放廣告同收集數據,然後佢哋開始推動呢個「驗證」賺錢計劃,而家,如果佢哋唔畀月費先可以存取網站,佢哋就會將人哋鎖定喺自己嘅帳戶入面。所以雖然 Couchsurfing 令到人與人之間有一個好嘅免貿易服務成為可能,但係呢個組織本身並唔係提供免貿易服務。而呢個免貿易目錄就係噉嘅 —— 呢啲組織提供嘅嘢。

據我所知,呢個同 Freecycle 嘅故事有啲相同 - 佢哋畀人哋可以互相提供免貿易嘅嘢,但係佢哋提供嘅服務(一個連接呢啲人嘅網站)其實唔係免貿易,因為佢會向你顯示廣告同埋收集你嘅數據。

02020年8月6日

Youtube posts ads next to videos and collects people’s data. One can see that as still ok since “all websites collect data” and that many websites post ads to maybe “support” themselves. However this does not make them trade-free. You have to trade your attention and data in order to access Youtube. There is no other way. Youtube won’t let you use their service without these trades. Freecycle is the same in the sense that no one can disable their ads or stop them from collecting people’s data. Thus, you HAVE to trade your attention and data to Freecycle. There is no other way that you can use their service. So, it makes this service NOT trade-free. Regardless of why they have ads on their website or collect data, for me it is not trade-free.

02020年8月6日

But I consider this anything but trade-free: https://www.directory.trade-free.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Pasted-4.jpg – I understand if they lack funding, but that does not mean to put ads into their website if they want to provide a genuine platform for people to share stuff. It’s like duckduckgo saying that it’s trade-free. Yes they do not collect your data, but they also put some ads in their search: https://www.directory.trade-free.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Pasted-4.png

如果佢哋想提供一個免貿易平台,噉佢哋應該靠捐款,但唔係靠你睇佢哋嘅廣告。

而且佢哋仲有啲嚴重陰暗嘅追蹤器: https : / / www . 目錄 . 自由貿易 . org / wp 內容 / 上載 / 2020 / 11 / 貼上 -5. png

02020年8月6日

Freecycle is a pioneer in enabling people to gift to each other. Almost all websites collect our data and it would be best if they didn’t but that is no reason to completely reject them as a trade-free network. Adds are one of the only forms people can get funding for providing services at no cost, it is best if we can avoid them but they aren’t a good enough reason to reject a TFnetwork.

雖然自由循環係可以改善嘅,但係佢係一個冇貿易世界嘅一個出色嘅先驅,而且至少應該被認為係一個選擇。

2020年5月30號

我唔會將佢哋加入目錄,因為佢哋充滿廣告,透過 google-analytics 收集數據,同埋喺 Twitter 同 facebook 呢啲以貿易為基礎嘅網絡上面宣傳佢哋嘅網站。所以佢哋想要你嘅注意力同數據。如果你想提供一個人哋可以免費畀同攞嘢嘅網絡,唔該 就咁做啦。唔好收集資料、唔好放廣告或者宣傳以貿易為基礎嘅服務。我知道維護網站可能會好棘手,但係之後只係靠捐款 – 否則你會喺滑坡上,遲早啲人會要驗證佢哋嘅帳戶,或者畀少少錢先可以用你個網站,就好似喺沙發冲浪嘅情況噉⋯

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