Okay maybe I was a bit too negative. I agree with these points and also give them 3 blocks 🙂

Ek sou die volgende sê:

1. Hulle gebruik inderdaad google analytics en newrelic (dit kan kom van plugins / addons van derdepartye). Baie webwerwe gebruik dit, of ten minste Google Analytics, om hul besoekers by te hou (soms nie om wins nie). Dus hiervoor gee ek dit 'n 3.

2. Using Google Captcha can, at times, be necessary since it is perhaps the best anti-spam protection. They use it to get rid of spam. It is true that Google collects data about users through this, so I’d give them just 4 blocks for this since I find this as necessary to use at times.

3. Die 5GB Nextcloud-beperking is normaal, aangesien u nie onbeperkte stoorplek gratis kan gee nie. Ek sou dit slegs as 'n handel beskou as hulle om geldeenhede of iets anders sou vra om dit te kry of die stoorplek uit te brei. Maar dit lyk asof hulle 5Gb aan almal gee as handelsvry.

4. Die koppeling aan sosiale netwerke soos Facebook of Twitter is om verskillende redes problematies, daarom gee ek hulle 4 blokke daarvoor, maar sal dit nie as 'n groot saak beskou nie, veral as u eenvoudig hierna skakel en nie hul knoppies gebruik wat spoorsnyers bevat nie.

5. On Wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDesktop.org#History I found that the company who owns them is this one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Systems and they say “According to Blue Systems employee Aurélien Gâteau, “Blue Systems does not have a business model, at least for now”.”

Oor die algemeen sou ek dit oor die algemeen as handelsvry beskou. Met voorbehoud natuurlik.

Well that’s a tricky one. On the website they use google analytics and have ads for their facebook and twitter account. These networks are trade-based. I registered an account and I had to verify to google that I’m not a robot via reCAPTCHA – google uses that of course to collect data about you so that’s another trade. After I verified my email I have access now to surprisingly a lot of services like files, calendar, maps (using openstreetmap.org) etc. – however privacy badger shows me a tracker called “cdn.pling.com” and “www.pling.com” and uBlock origin blocked “newrelic.com”. “New Relic is a San Francisco, California-based technology company which develops cloud-based software to help website and application owners track the performances of their services.” (https://www.wikiwand.com/en/New_Relic#/Products) It says to help track the performances of their servies, but I won’t trust them, because if you dig into they privacy policy, you will figure out they collect a shit ton of data about you and share it with 3rd parties and such: https://newrelic.com/termsandconditions/privacy New Relic is also a big corporation with a revenue of around 600 million dollar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Relic)

pling.com is deel van die dienste van opendesktop.org en het ook google analytics en nuwe relikwie, dus dit versamel ook data.

Let’s continue with opendesktop.org: when I click on one of these services like “files”, a nextcloud tab opens and after i logged in with the same username and password I have access to these services and and they seem to be trade-free, as there are no trackers or ads. However I have a limited amount of storage which is 5 gb. “Social” opens Mastodon which is trade-free, “Projects” opens opencode.net which seems to be trade-free – so all of these services are trade-free. They do not offer any premium or paid account, but the storage is limited to 5 gb – I don’t know if you can increase that and if you have to do something for doing that.

Dus, op 'n positiewe manier, het u toegang tot 'n klomp dienste, maar negatief, u moet u data verhandel om daarheen te kom om dit te gebruik.

Framasoft (https://www.directory.trade-free.org/goods-services/framasoft/) seems to also provide you with the same services on their website and they also show you how you can install nextcloud: https://framacloud.org/fr/cultiver-son-jardin/nextcloud.html (yes unfortunately it’s in french…) and they do that without collecting your data.

All in all I am inclined to consider them as not trade-free with the argument of data collection. They can remove google-analytics, as it just serves to collect data about users. They could also remove the ads to facebook and twitter. And about that newrelic.com tracker – is also shady. And if the founder of opendesktop.org Karl Karlitscheck says “Privacy is the foundation of democracy” and that people should have a basic right “to control their own data in the Internet age.” – then he shouldn’t use google-analytics.

En laaste, maar nie die minste nie, het ek die maatskappy agter opendesktop.org gevind wat die naam hive01 heet: “h i v e 01 is 'n internetbemarkingspesialis wat fokus op internetadvertensies as 'n manier om goedere en dienste te verkoop, te versprei en te bevorder. Ons het 'n paar jaar ervaring met internetbemarking. Ons aanlynveldtogte, advertensies vir tekskakels en dienste vir soekenjinoptimalisering is die hoeksteen van u suksesvolle internetbemarkingstrategie. ” http://hive01.com/advertising/

Al met al: as ons 'n gids so handevry as moontlik wil hê, sal ek nie opendesktop.org byvoeg nie - daar is alternatiewe soos framasoft. Wat is u mening oor opendesktop.org?