Ok, talvez eu tenha sido um pouco negativo. Eu concordo com esses pontos e também dou a eles 3 blocos 🙂

Eu diria o seguinte:

1. Eles realmente usam google analytics e newrelic (este pode vir de plugins / addons de terceiros). Muitos sites usam esses, ou pelo menos o Google Analytics, para rastrear seus visitantes (às vezes sem fins lucrativos). Então, para isso, eu daria 3.

2. Using Google Captcha can, at times, be necessary since it is perhaps the best anti-spam protection. They use it to get rid of spam. It is true that Google collects data about users through this, so I’d give them just 4 blocks for this since I find this as necessary to use at times.

3. A limitação do Nextcloud de 5 GB é normal, pois você não pode fornecer espaço de armazenamento ilimitado gratuitamente. Eu só consideraria uma troca se eles pedissem moedas ou qualquer outra coisa para conseguir isso ou expandir o espaço de armazenamento. Mas eles parecem dar 5 GB a qualquer um como livre de comércio.

4. Vincular a redes sociais como Facebook ou Twitter é problemático por vários motivos, então eu daria a eles 4 blocos para isso, mas não consideraria um grande problema, especialmente quando você simplesmente cria um link para elas e não usa seus botões que contêm rastreadores.

5. On Wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDesktop.org#History I found that the company who owns them is this one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Systems and they say “According to Blue Systems employee Aurélien Gâteau, “Blue Systems does not have a business model, at least for now”.”

Overall I would consider this as trade-free generally. With caveats of course.

Well that’s a tricky one. On the website they use google analytics and have ads for their facebook and twitter account. These networks are trade-based. I registered an account and I had to verify to google that I’m not a robot via reCAPTCHA – google uses that of course to collect data about you so that’s another trade. After I verified my email I have access now to surprisingly a lot of services like files, calendar, maps (using openstreetmap.org) etc. – however privacy badger shows me a tracker called “cdn.pling.com” and “www.pling.com” and uBlock origin blocked “newrelic.com”. “New Relic is a San Francisco, California-based technology company which develops cloud-based software to help website and application owners track the performances of their services.” (https://www.wikiwand.com/en/New_Relic#/Products) It says to help track the performances of their servies, but I won’t trust them, because if you dig into they privacy policy, you will figure out they collect a shit ton of data about you and share it with 3rd parties and such: https://newrelic.com/termsandconditions/privacy New Relic is also a big corporation with a revenue of around 600 million dollar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Relic)

pling.com is part of opendesktop.org’s services and has also google analytics and new relic, so it also collects data.

Let’s continue with opendesktop.org: when I click on one of these services like “files”, a nextcloud tab opens and after i logged in with the same username and password I have access to these services and and they seem to be trade-free, as there are no trackers or ads. However I have a limited amount of storage which is 5 gb. “Social” opens Mastodon which is trade-free, “Projects” opens opencode.net which seems to be trade-free – so all of these services are trade-free. They do not offer any premium or paid account, but the storage is limited to 5 gb – I don’t know if you can increase that and if you have to do something for doing that.

So on a positive note, you have access to a bunch of services, but on the negative note, you have to trade your data in order to get there to use them.

Framasoft (https://www.directory.trade-free.org/goods-services/framasoft/) seems to also provide you with the same services on their website and they also show you how you can install nextcloud: https://framacloud.org/fr/cultiver-son-jardin/nextcloud.html (yes unfortunately it’s in french…) and they do that without collecting your data.

All in all I am inclined to consider them as not trade-free with the argument of data collection. They can remove google-analytics, as it just serves to collect data about users. They could also remove the ads to facebook and twitter. And about that newrelic.com tracker – is also shady. And if the founder of opendesktop.org Karl Karlitscheck says “Privacy is the foundation of democracy” and that people should have a basic right “to control their own data in the Internet age.” – then he shouldn’t use google-analytics.

E por último, mas não menos importante, encontrei a empresa por trás do opendesktop.org, que se chama hive01: “h i v e 01 é um especialista em marketing na internet focado na publicidade na internet como meio de vender, distribuir e promover bens e serviços. Temos vários anos de experiência em marketing na internet. Nossas campanhas online, anúncios de link de texto e serviços de otimização de mecanismo de pesquisa são a base de sua estratégia de marketing na Internet de sucesso. ” http://hive01.com/advertising/

Resumindo: se quisermos ter um diretório o mais livre de comércio possível, eu não adicionaria opendesktop.org - existem alternativas como o framasoft. Qual é a sua opinião sobre opendesktop.org?